Colin Moulding on XTC tribute Garden of Earthly Delights
To mark the release of Garden of Earthly Delights: An XTC Celebration, Mark Fisher talks to Futureman label boss Keith Klingensmith about the art of compiling 49 XTC covers. Then, in the associated podcast, David White, Mark Reed and Colin Moulding himself share their first reactions.
Mark
Fisher: Where did the idea to do an XTC compilation come from?
Keith Klingensmith:
XTC was my favourite band for years and years. Futureman has done a few tribute
projects in the past, but XTC has always been in the back of my head. Once it
came time to start a new one I put the feelers out to some trusted pals to see
what they thought about taking the plunge. I half expected "you're crazy,
don't do it", but they were game so off we went.
Bob of the
Pops has already covered The Loving – is Futureman a hotbed of XTC fans?
Ha! If
Futureman is anything it's the home of smart pop, and does any band slot into
that category better than XTC? Just about every band on our label jumped at the
chance to participate.
How did
you choose the musicians?
I should
mention up front that I have a solid core of regulars I trust completely. Beyond
those though, I have a good sense of who would be good candidates (but
admittedly I did check to see if the artists I hadn't worked with before were
already XTC fans on Facebook as it made the sell a lot easier). In between
these projects I always file interesting bands in the back of my head. XTC cut
across a whole lot of that mental list, and I had no problems at all
recruiting. I actually pulled a couple in from the XTC pages. Seth Timbs, for
one, wasn't on my radar until he started posting the occasional solo piano
cover in Chalkhills. Super happy we got him.
What kind
of a response did you get?
Just about
every artist I invited was excited to be asked and signed right on. There were
a handful though that were such giant XTC fans they didn't want to touch
the songs. Which I totally get. I don't think any artists involved would say
these were easy songs to cover. And I will mention there were a handful of
people that came to the realisation they couldn't do the song they chose
justice and wound up having to drop out. Again, I totally get that. Hated to
lose 'em, but totally get.
My
impression talking to musicians for What Do You Call That Noise? is that XTC
are musician's musicians – all kinds of players from across the musical
spectrum take them seriously. Have you had the same experience?
Well Futureman
is a pop label, we like guitars and big harmonies so that's the world we
inhabit and the artists we're drawn to. But, as an avid XTC social media
consumer, I don't know if I could name a band that appeals across a wider swath
of genres than our boys.
Did you have a vision of how you'd like the album to work as a whole?
I just wanted
it to be solid and have all eras well represented. I knew I'd have no worries
about that first part, but the second part took some work. Once I had a double-CD's
worth of artists on board with songs chosen, I realised there were big holes
in representation. Weird ones too. Nothing from Go 2 probably not a big
surprise to most readers (though I love that record) but nothing from English
Settlement and just one or two from Drums and Wires/Mummer/Big Express and
Oranges and Lemons combined. So that's what led me to just continuing on with
the invites. A few of the later artists I invited I asked to choose from a
specific record or era and we plugged the holes pretty quickly. Wanting to make
sure we had every era covered is what gave us the great batch of digital-only
bonus tracks that are included, so make sure if you guys grab a physical copy,
you download the files too, loads of great stuff in the bonus section.
How did
you decide who got to cover which song? Were there arguments?
We find these projects work best when I leave it up to the artists to choose the song
they want to do. I didn't have a list to pick from, didn't have any suggestions
(up to a point). The artist choosing a song that means something to them and
that they think works for them is the best approach. I say to a point because
there were a couple of bands I approached that I already had a song in
mind for. Both of them did that song and both of them were perfect, but I left
it to the artists in every other case.
How long
did you have to wait for the covers to come in?
Man, we've
been working on this one a long time. First started quietly asking a few key
artists opinions on XTC as a subject back in October of 2018 and started
ramping up soon after that. I do always like to take these thing slow. I know
bands have a lot of other stuff going on and these things take a lot of
planning on their end to do right, so I told them we wouldn't need tracks until
early summer of 2019. And as always happens, that deadline kept creeping back. But
all delivered eventually and all so worth waiting for. Hope you guys agree!
What makes
a good cover?
I'm super
conscious of music being as objective as anything gets. So what makes a good
cover for me might not make a good cover for you, but I am a pop fan. You dial
up the pop and add some more harmonies and I am there, always. But we of course
run the gamut from faithful to some pretty interesting reworkings. I'm
personally not a fan of messing with the original song just for the sake of
messing with it but luckily neither are our artists.
Who
surprised you?
The ones I
wound up personally surprised by were the artists who chose a song I didn't
love. We all have those XTC songs we just never clicked with. There were
probably five or six that chose songs where I wasn't that into the originals,
but in every single case they were right to choose and made me see the original
in a new light. An example being Coke Belda and El Inquieto Roque's version of Standing
in for Joe. Love their version and can now appreciate the original (as a
matter of fact, I now realise most of the ones I'm referring to here came from Wasp
Star, never my fave!)
With XTC,
the arrangement and the song often seem to be one and the same, making it hard
to imagine recording it in a different way. Do you agree?
I absolutely
agree, but I'm glad there are artists out there smarter than me who were able
to do just that. Cuz the handful we have that were fairly drastic reworkings
keep things interesting. There would be no point in doing a record full of
straight covers.
Of the
songs I've heard so far, Gretchen's Wheel's cover of The Last Balloon, Chris
Price's The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead, Bird Streets' Dear God and Derrick
Anderson's Don't Lose Your Temper are good examples of musicians making a song
their own without deviating too far from the template. Is that typical of the
album?
It is. I've
worked with most of these artists before and we're all of the same general
mindset. We love these songs, but the way we show our love is by putting our
own unique stamp on it, whether that's our own brand of harmonies, the extra
guitars we might not be able to live without or just a slight jigger to get it
firmly in our wheelhouse. I know this might be tough for people as most of us
grew up with these songs. It's tough for some to hear any re-working and not
dismiss it with a "what's the point?", but I hope everyone can go
into this with an open mind and enjoy it for the celebration it was meant to
be!
Did you
lose any musicians along the way?
We did,
including my own band. Some scheduling conflicts, some bands deciding they
couldn't do a song justice, some life events. We lost some of my faves, but the
silver lining was it allowed me to pull up a handful of songs that were
previously part of the "digital only" section up to the CD. I wish I
had those missing bands here with us, but it all worked out.
Do you
have a favourite and/or a moment of revelation?
I have some
favourites but that just means a handful just hit my personal sweet spot. Hopefully
everyone who listens is going to find a few that hit whatever personal sweet
spot they have. I always have moments of revelation on these projects, but that
revelation is mostly just how amazing these artists are, ha-ha. There are
always a batch of versions on our tribute projects that I would consider
mini-masterpieces, and this one was no exception. (A few personal faves though:
My Bird Performs – Myrtle Park's Fishing Club, Life Begins at the Hop – The
Kickstand Band, and Another Satellite – Paul Melancon.)
What was
your brief to sleeve designer Yamato Kawada?
Ha, so I had
to go back and check. Here is the only thing I sent. <Something that sums up
a legendary bands entire legacy haha.> But let's talk about that artwork! When
I got the first sketch back, I knew this was going to be more than I could ever
have hoped for, but the full colour… man. Mind blowing. What a perfect
encapsulation. I had been dragging a bit with the project because I couldn't
settle on a name or an artwork idea, keeping us in limbo. Pencilling in a name
then putting it in Yamato's hands was the best decision I made and reinvigorated
me enough to drag this massive project to the finish line. Owe the world.
The album
is called a "celebration of XTC". Do you hope it will make people
reassess the band?
I'm not sure
this is the type of project that will lead anyone to reassess. This is more by
die-hard fans for die-hard fans. I just want it to be a fun ride for people!
Garden of
Earthly Delights: An XTC Celebration is available exclusively from Futureman Records
Listen here for a discussion of the XTC tribute album Garden of Earthly Delights, featuring an exclusive interview with XTC's Colin Moulding, as well as first responses from XTC fans Mark Fisher, David White and Mark Reed:
More covers at XTC's Limelight YouTube page.
Listen here for a discussion of the XTC tribute album Garden of Earthly Delights, featuring an exclusive interview with XTC's Colin Moulding, as well as first responses from XTC fans Mark Fisher, David White and Mark Reed:
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What Do You Call That Noise? An XTC Discovery Book is a compelling 228-page volume in which some of the world's leading musicians and keenest fans come together to discuss what makes XTC so very special.
£17.99 + free UK p&p (international p&p from £5)
Full details: https://www.xtclimelight.com/
What Do You Call That Noise? An XTC Discovery Book is a compelling 228-page volume in which some of the world's leading musicians and keenest fans come together to discuss what makes XTC so very special.
£17.99 + free UK p&p (international p&p from £5)
Full details: https://www.xtclimelight.com/
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